Tuesday, January 29, 2019

Hungarian AFVs

     The Kingdom of Hungary was a member of the Axis alignment in a less-than-enthusiastic manner. They had more reasons to go to war with their neighbors than to fight against the Soviet  Union. However the Nationalist government wanted to regain territories lost to the adjoining countries  of Romania and Yugoslavia and they decided to ride on Hitler's coattails in an effort to achieve that objective. In the end they were dragged into a war with Russia (and by proxy the rest of the Western Allies) and were rewarded with a half-century under the Soviet boot.




35M Tankette     Size 2      Armor 8
Move:    Road 16”     Good 10”     Bad 6”     Obstacle -3”

8mm Breda MG
Range       up to 6”      up to 16”
Dice          2d6-2            1d6
to hit          +2                  0 
or
20mm Autocannon
Range    up to 6”      up to 18”     up to 26”
Dice        2d6+3          2d6+1          2d6
to hit        +2                +1                0
two shots per turn if stationary and not changing target
or 
13.2mm Breda HMG
Range     up to 6”     up to 18”    up to 26”
Dice         2d6+3        2d6+2          2d6
to hit         +2              +1                0
May fire twice if stationary
Toldi I      Size 3                Armor  10
Move: Road 14” Good 10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”

20mm Solothurn  
Range    up to 6”      up to 18”     up to 26”
Dice        2d6+3          2d6+1          2d6
to hit        +2                +1                0
two shots per turn if stationary and not changing target


Toldi II      Size 3                Armor  11
Move: Road 14” Good 10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”

37/42M MAVAG 40mm cannon
Range      up to 6”       up to 24”           up to 48"       up to 72"
Dice            4d6             4d6-1                3d6+1             3D6-1
to hit           +2                  0                      -1                    -2
Two shots per turn if stationary





Toldi III     Size 3                Armor  12
Move: Road 14” Good 10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”

37/42M MAVAG 40mm cannon
Range      up to 6”       up to 24”           up to 48"       up to 72"
Dice            4d6             4d6-1                3d6+1             3D6-1
to hit           +2                  0                      -1                    -2
Two shots per turn if stationary




Turan I        Size  4     Armor  13
Move: Road 14” Good 10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”

 37/42M MAVAG 40mm cannon
Range      up to 6”       up to 24”           up to 48"       up to 72"
Dice            4d6             4d6-1                3d6+1             3D6-1
to hit           +2                  0                      -1                    -2
Two shots per turn if stationary





Turan II        Size  4     Armor  13
Move: Road 14” Good 10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”

MAVAG 75 mm 41M L/25
Range up to 6”     up to 20”     up to 40”    up to 80”    up to 120”
Dice         4d6          4d6             4d6            4d6              4d6
to hit       +2               0               -1               -2                 -3


43M Zrinyi II      Size   3    Armor    15
Move: Road 14” Good 10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”

MÁVAG 105 mm  40/43M
M-2A1 105mm Howitzer
Range      up to 6”        up to 30”       up to 60”      up to 120”
Dice           6d6                6d6               6d6                   6d6
to hit         +1                     0                  -2                    -3
30 degree arc of fire to front, may turn to acquire target but then counts as moving


Nimrod SPAA               Size 6                   Armor   10
Move: Road 14” Good 10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”

40mm Bofors L60
Range      up to 6”       up to 24”           up to 48"       up to 72"
Dice            4d6             4d6-1                3d6+1             3D6-1
to hit           +2                  0                      -1                    -2
Four shots per turn if not moving



39M Csaba                    Size  3               Armor 8
Move:   Road  24"    Good   10"    Bad 6" Obstacle  -6"

20mm Solothurn  
Range    up to 6”      up to 18”     up to 26”
Dice        2d6+3          2d6+1          2d6
to hit        +2                +1                0
two shots per turn if stationary and not changing target

8 comments:

  1. I do not think the Hungarians were sold the 20mm variant of the CV-35, and I am sure they were not sold the 13.2mm variant. However, the Italians DID have both variants.

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    1. The source material is vary vague, the up-gunning was likely done by the troops themselves as both weapons were on the army inventory. Or the sources might be wrong as well.

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  2. OK, but when will the Italians have these options, and the 45mm grenade chucker? Oh, and when with the twin 8mm Breda's be brought up to at least equality with the magazine fed BrEn gun carrier stats?

    Oh, and I seem to recall a 75mm armed Zriny as well.

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    1. Your little Italian friend has been updated, I have no information on the"45mm grenade chucker" so you will have to point me at some data. The 75mm Zrinyi never got past prototype according to my sources.

      The Breda used bog-standard rifle ammo while the Bren was provided with magazines of AP. If you can find me some indicatio that the Italians supplied AP ammo to the CV33/35 units I will be happy to upgrade.

      BTW did you see that the KNIL has some swimming tanks too? I would have thought that they would be handy in the Netherlands as flooding was one of their defensive tactics.

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  3. OK, Please refer to the following pdf.

    http://cesimmunizioni.eu/forum/extra/8x59RBricci.pdf

    The term in Italian is "Perferante". There were six different types beginning on page 5 and came into service with the weapon in 1937.

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  4. The Dutch tank was a crowd control device to keep the East Indies in line. The home defense plan was to pray that neutrality worked again. The Dutch knew there was no way to stop an actual German invasion. Belgium could not save them, and no one else shared a border.

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  5. Religiously significant Cow Guano Batman!!!!

    Check this site out!!!!

    http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/02/17/italys-workhorse-the-cv-3-series/

    Pictures of every variant. The standard "Lanciafiamme" 'torch version is of course included. The 13.2 HMG/ATR version is there as well. They made a RECOVERY vehicle (Recupero) out of a CV-33! What on EARTH could they "Recover"? They have another variant carrying the 7 meter bridge the video you linked up elsewhere showed (the 'Gettaponte' variant!). They have two different versions with a 20mm cannon, the standard Solothurn ATR, but another with the Breda 20mm auto cannon used in Regia Aeronotica fighter planes! There is even a prototype with a 47mm ATG (gun shield included) mounted on front with the entire superstructure removed.

    Any way a picture of the CV-33? with the Brixia (model 37 if memory serves) mortar attached and MG's still visible! is included. This is that 45mm either arced or direct fire grenade launcher/mortar that the Italians handed out like pez throughout the war.

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  6. On a completely different point, the web site also reminded me that Bolivia, Paraguay and Brazil all bought them as well, an obscene and obscure hypothetical battle is creeping into my mind. I already have a bunch of CV's and a bunch of Carden Lloyds from the Chinese.

    By the way when are you going to do the Chinese tanks? You know you want to figure out a Panzer I with a 20mm gun in place of an MG, plus the Carden-Lloyd

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