CV 33 Size 2 Armor
8
Move: Road 16” Good
10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”
8mm Breda MG
Range up to 6” up to 16”
Dice 2d6-2 1d6
to hit +2
0
or
20mm Autocannon
Range up to 6” up to
18” up to 26”
Dice 2d6+3 2d6+1
2d6
to hit +2
+1 0
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
or
13.2mm Breda HMG
Range up to 6” up to
18” up to 26”
Dice 2d6+3 2d6+2
2d6
to hit +2
+1 0
May fire twice if stationary
May fire twice if stationary
Semovente da40 47/32 Size
3 Armor 9
Move: Road 14” Good
10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”
Cannone da 47/32
Range up to 6” up to 20”
up to 60”
Dice 4d6 4d6-2
4d6-3
to hit +2 0
-1
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
Fiat L 6/40 Size 4 Armor
10
Move: Road 14” Good
10” Bad 6” Obstacle -3”
20mm Autocannon
Range up to 6” up to
18” up to 26”
Dice 2d6+3 2d6+1
2d6
to hit +2
+1 0
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
M11/39 Size 4 Armor
11
Move: Road 14” Good
10” Bad 6” Obstacle -4”
Cannone da 47/32
Range up to 6” up to 20”
up to 60”
Dice 4d6 4d6-2
4d6-3
to hit +2 0
-1
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
30 degree arc of fire to front,
may turn to acquire target but then counts as moving
M13/40 Size 4 Armor
12
Move Road 12” Good 8”
Bad 4” Obstacle-3
Cannone da 47/32
Range up to 6” up to 20”
up to 60”
Dice 4d6 4d6-2
4d6-3
to hit +2 0
-1
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
M14/41 Size 4
Armor 13
Move Road 12” Good 8”
Bad 4” Obstacle-3
Cannone da 47/32
Range up to 6” up to 20”
up to 60”
Dice 4d6 4d6-2
4d6-3
to hit +2 0
-1
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
Semovente M41 75/18 Size
4 Armor 14
Move Road 12” Good 8”
Bad 4” Obstacle-3
75mm 75/18 cannon
Range up to 6” up to 20”
up to 40” up to 80” up to 120”
Dice 4d6 4d6
4d6 4d6 4d6
to hit +2 0
-1 -2 -3
30 degree arc of fire to front,
may turn to acquire target but then counts as moving
Semovente M41M da90/53 Size
4 Armor 8
Move Road 12” Good 8”
Bad 4” Obstacle N/A
90mm da 90/53 cannon
Range up to 8” up to 20”
up to 40” up to 80” up to 120”
Dice 8d6 6d6
6d6 6d6-2 5d6
to hit +2 +1 0 0 -1
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
uses a Move or Free Action to deploy
from transport mode
Autoblinda AB41 Size 4 Armor
10
Move Road 18” Good 12” Bad
8” Obstacle -4
20mm Autocannon
Range up to 6” up to
18” up to 26”
Dice 2d6+3 2d6+1
2d6
to hit +2
+1 0
two shots per turn if stationary and
not changing target
OK, since you did you, you know you were asking for this.
ReplyDeletePhenomenal as usual overall!
The CV33 and the CV 35 are very similar, but not the same. The CV 33 is riveted, the CV 35 is bolted. Apparently the bolting cut down on rivets spalling loose. The CV 33 was armed with an even more worthless than usual 6.5 mm mg, but most were retro upgraded to the TWIN 8mm Breda mg's. By the way the standard armament is TWIN 8mm mg's. There are a multitude of variants all in armament. There were some (a single 12.7 heavy MG version, as well as a single 20mm semi auto Solothurn Anti tank rifle version) that completely replaced the twin mg's. There were others (a 13.2mm standard anti tank rifle) that only replaced one of the mg's leaving the other in place. And then the masterpiece of Italian over thinking that left both 8mm mg's in place and bolted on a 45mm brixia mortar on top. This one included a glacis (bullet screen) in front and was able to be traversed 30 degrees to either side (when those weirdo's at F.O.W. put out the idea I had to look that one up).
The M11/39 was bad in some rough going (sand) because the tracks were too thin, so you might want to modify that to 4", but it did work alright in other sorts of ground clutter (mud and rock scrabble).
ReplyDeleteThe M13/40 rightly sucks, but actually even more than you are demonstrating. They had a terrible tendency to "Ronson" like the early Shermans, everyone who used them (Brits, Aussie's and Kiwi's) commented on it. The M14/41 (no such thing as an M13/41) solved the "Ronson" issue (again commented on by "secondary market users" as well as Italians) and the sand issues (wider tracks), so should probably be a bit more user friendly in bad going/obstacles. The final variant was the M15/42. All previous improvements remained and armor goes to 50mm frontal and 42mm on side/rear which was apparently what the Germans had told them would be the new 'standard' for German tanks in 1942.
Now, the most significant technical concern is that you are ignoring the Italian Effetto Pronto rounds. There is argument out there with the Commando Supremo regulation data which says that the 47mm EP round will penetrate 112 mm of armor, but the Germans found it regularly did 75mm or armor. The Italians used it to knock out Matilda's and Valentine's, so often that the knock outs went into their willingness to give these tanks away to the Russians.
Remember this is a "HESH" round so it is not spinning, the trade offs should be a minus to hit, but if it hits properly - look out inside. You also may want to include some sort of consideration of the "quality" of the hit. If this thing hits flat on, it is going through. If it strikes on an angle, then there is a chance of it not getting enough reaction on target to go through the armor.
As a final note on effectiveness, the Germans found that the 75mm version could do KV's and even tested a 100 mm Italian gun and EP shell on an IS-2 and it penetrated the 100 mm, 60 degree sloped, side armor. When the Germans ran into these in Poland they were desperate for answers and used the Italian round as the "top" answer.
The Semovente 75 was based on the 41 and 42 chassis, and should correct to those basics. The Effetto Pronto round was even more effective in the 75mm gun than it was in the 47mm gun, and there was no tank it faced that it could not wreck. The only question was hitting squarely.
ReplyDeleteIf you are looking for stuff to do there is a Semovente 105 as well, it was only on the 42 chassis.
The Italian 90 was interchangeable with the German 90 so I presume that it is the same, but have not checked to confirm.